Prikry Forcing

Recall that the chromatic number of a (symmetric) graph (G,E), denoted Chr(G,E), is the least (possible finite) cardinal κ, for which there exists a coloring c:Gκ such that gEh entails c(g)c(h).
Given a forcing notion P, it is natural to analyze Chr(P,), where pq iff p and q are incompatible conditions. Here is a concrete example.

Prikry Forcing. Suppose that κ is a measurable cardinal, and U is a non-principal, normal κ-complete ultrafilter over κ. Prikry’s notion of forcing PU is the collection of all pairs (σ,A) such that

  1. σ[κ]<ω, and
  2. AU with max(σ)<min(A).

A condition (σ2,A2) extends (σ1,A1) iff A2A1 and σ2σ1A1. That is, we are allowed to shrink the A-part, and allowed to end-extend σ by adding to it finitely many elements from A.

Let us point out that Chr(PU,)κ:
Suppose not, as witnessed by some chromatic coloring c:PUλ, with λ<κ. Define f:[κ]2λ, by letting f(α,β):=c(α,β,κ). Then, by the Erdos-Rado theorem, there exists an infinite set A (indeed, a set of size λ+), for which f[A]2 is constant. Let α<β<γ be elements of A. Then c(α,β,κ)=f(α,β)=f(α,γ)=c(α,γ,κ), contradicting the fact that (α,β,κ)(α,γ,κ).

Now, let us show that Chr(PU,)=κ, and even in a strong sense. For this, it is customary to introduce some terminology. We say that a subset DPU is a deciding set if there exists a statement φ in the forcing language, such that D={pPUp decides φ}.

The Prikry property. There exists a chromatic coloring c:PUκ such that:

  1. any c-homogeneous set of size <κ admits a lower bound;
  2. c witnesses PU[Deciding]κ1, that is, c[D]=κ for every deciding set DPU.

Proof. Let c:PU[κ]<ω be the projection map (σ,A)σ. Since U is a filter, c is a chromatic coloring. Moreover, if Q is a c-homogeneous set of size <κ, then there exists some σ[κ]<ω and A[U]<κ such that Q={(σ,A)AA}, and so the fact that U is κ-complete, entails that p=(σ,A) is a lower bound for Q.
Next, suppose that we are given a statement φ in the forcing language, together with some σ[κ]<ω, and let us find some pPU that decides φ, and satisfying c(p)=σ.
We shall take advantage of a theorem of Rowbottom stating that for every function f:[κ]<ω2, there exists a set of indiscernibles for f that lies in U. Indeed, define f:[κmax(σ)+1]<ω2 by letting f(η)=1 iff there exists some BU, such that (ση,B) forces φ to hold.
Let AU be a set of indiscernibles for f, and put q:=(σ,A). Then c(q)=σ, and we are left with showing that q decides φ. Suppose it does not. Then there exist extensions q0=(σ0,A0) and q1=(σ1,A1) of q such that q0 forces φ to hold, while q1 forces φ to fail. Note that by (possibly) further extending one of the conditions, we may assume that |σ0|=|σ1|. Let η0,η1 be such that σ0=ση0 and σ1=ση1. Then, there exists some n<ω such that {η0,η1}[κmax(σ)+1]n. In particular, f(η0)=f(η1).
By the choice of q0, we get that f(η0)=1. It follows that f(η1)=1, and hence there exists some BU such that (ση1,B) forces φ to hold. In particular, (σ1,BA1) is an extension of q1 that forces φ to hold. This is a contradiction. ◻

Corollary. PU does not add any bounded subsets of κ.
Proof. Suppose that θ<κ and q forces that X is a name for a subset of θ. For every α<θ, let Dα:={pPp decides whether αX}. For every α<θ, let us pick pαDα such that c(pα)=c(q). Then {q,pαα<θ} is a c-homogeneous set of size <κ, and hence admits a lower bound. Clearly, any such bound forces that X is equal to a ground model set. ◻

Corollary. Any set of ordinals of size κ in the extension, is covered by a ground model set of the same size.
Proof. By Chr(PU,)=κ, we know that PU has the κ+-chain-condition, which implies the above assertion. ◻

It follows that PU does not collapse cardinals. But what kind of new sets does it add?

The obvious set that it adds is g={σ(σ,A)G}, where G is PU-generic. A density argument shows that g is countable set such that gA is finite for every AU. In particular, sup(g)=κ, and hence gK is finite for any ground model K[κ]<κ.

I asked Magidor for a concrete example of a subset of κ+ in the extension which does not contain a ground model set of the same size. He gave me one under the assumption of 2κ=κ+:

Example. Suppose that cf(U,)=κ+. Since U is normal, we can find an enumerated family {Aαα<κ+}U which is cofinal in (U,), and such that α<β<κ+ implies that AβAα is bounded in κ. In the generic extension, let g:ωκ denote the increasing enumeration of the generic Prikry sequence. Using g, we can define F:κ+ω by letting F(α):=min{n<ωg[ωn]Aα}.
Let π:κ+κ+×ω be a bijection. Towards a contradiction, suppose that p=(σ,A)PU forces that a ground model Fκ+ of size κ+ is a subset of π1[F]. In particular, π[F] is a partial function. Fix a large enough αdom(π[F]) such that Aα is small enough to satisfy |AAα|ω.  Then pick η[AAα]π[F](α)+1, and consider q=(ση,Amax(η)+1). Then q is an extension of p that forces that F(α)>n=π[F](α). This is a contradiction. ◻

Update: note that the above argument moreover entails (assuming, e.g., 2κ=κ+) that every ground model stationary set Sκ+, has a stationary subset TS in the extension, for which no ground model set of size κ+ is a subset of T.

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17 Responses to Prikry Forcing

  1. Mohammad says:

    Dear Assaf,
    The arguments are really interesting.
    I am always surprised, when I see a topic about Prirky type forcings.

  2. Mohammad says:

    The following might be useful:

    Kimchi, Yechiel M. “GENERALIZING PRIKRY FORCING AND PARTITION RELATIONS.” Proceedings of the Israel Mathematical Union Conference: Tel Aviv, 1988. Israel Mathematical Union, 1988.

    I have no access to it, but you may be able to obtain the notes.

    • saf says:

      Thanks a lot! I asked a colleague to borrow the book from the library and scan the relevant pages. Attached!

      Edit: Here’s a relevant video (and abstract).
      Edit 2022: See the abstract for Kimchi’s talk on the book of LC2017.

      • Yechiel M. Kimchi says:

        Please note that the results published in LC2017
        improve the uni-directional results of 1988 into equiconsitency.
        Please note that Remark(c) in the 1988 abstract has a typo in it
        – please refer to Note(2) in the LC2017 for the correct statement.

  3. Mohammad says:

    Thanks a lot for the paper.
    Do you know what the forcing notion introduced in the paper (by Kimchi himself) is and if there are any references to find it

    • saf says:

      I asked Magidor. He said that, at the end, the paper did not make it into print.
      As for the proof – it is probably best to ask him next month, when we all meet in Oberwolfach.

  4. Mohammad says:

    I think the following gives a simpler proof of Magidor’s result. In fact I think it is possible to prove something more:

    Theorem. Suppose κ<κ=κ,WV,kappa is preserved in W and Aκ,AWV. Then there is Bκ,BW such that no subset of B of size kappa is in V.

    To see this, fix a bijection fV,f:[κ]<κκ, and let B={f[Aα]:α<κ}.

    • saf says:

      Hi Mohammad,
      I believe your result and Magidor’s are incomparable, as yours deals with subsets of κ, while Magidor’s with subsets of κ+.

      • Mohammad says:

        My result is in general; for the Magidor case, take kappa+, and note that as he assumes 2kappa=kappa+, so we have (kappa+)<kappa+=kappa+. So if we have a subset of kappa+ of size kappa+ in the Prikry extension, then by the above, we have one which has no ground model subset of the same size.

    • Mohammad says:

      I realized that the above argument works when every bounded subset of κ is in V.

      So the above argument does not work for your case above (Magidor’s example).

  5. Mohammad says:

    Dear Assaf, I have a suggestion: Why not adding your really nice written notes in your blog (https://blog.assafrinot.com/?page_id=1544), into your paper “surprisingly short”.

    • saf says:

      Thanks, Mohammad. While I agree that PDF layout is much nicer than that of a weblog, I find it more convenient to write+include hyperlinks+maintain/update these short pieces on my weblog, than on a compiled PDF file.

  6. Mohammad says:

    The following paper by Gitik is related to Magidor’s theorem stated above:

    On density of old sets in Prikry type extensions

    http://www.math.tau.ac.il/~gitik/densityoldsets.pdf

    • saf says:

      Thanks a lot, Mohammad!

    • Tom B. says:

      Dear Mohammad and Assaf,

      I’m sorry for the 7-year delay, I just came across this post.

      In relation to Gitik’s paper, it turns out that the property of sets in the generic extension of certain cardinality containing ground model sets of the same cardinality is fully characterized by a pretty simple combinatorial property of the ultrafilter we use for the Prikry forcing. The so-called Galvin property.

      Def. Let U be an ultrafilter on \kappa. Gal(U,\mu,\lambda) holds if any collection of \lambda many elements in U contains a subcollection of size \mu whose intersection is in U.

      The result is more general in the following sense:
      Gal(U,\mu,\lambda) characterizes the situation where every set of ordinals of size \lambda in the U-Prikry extension V[G] contains a ground model set of size \mu. This is proven in my paper with Alejandro Poveda and Shimon Garti- “negating the Galvin property” (one of the directions is a slight modification of the argument from Gitik’s paper mentioned above):

      https://londmathsoc.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1112/jlms.12743

      see theorem 4.10 (there is a typo there- the assumption that U is normal is redundant)

      Now under 2^\kappa=\kappa^{+} it is known that Gal(U,\kappa^+,\kappa^+) must fail (this is a result of Kanamori from the 70’s). A more general result which I recently proved is that Gal(U,cf(Ch(U)),cf(Ch(U)) must fail where Ch(U) is the minimal size of a base for U (if 2^\kappa=\kappa^+ the ch(Ch(U))=\kappa^+). So you can always find a set of size cf(Ch(U)) in V[G] that does not contain a ground model set of size cf(Ch(U)).

      Also for Gal(U,\kappa^+,\kappa^+) to hold we need more than o(\kappa)=\kappa^{++} (which is the naive lower bound as we must violate GCH at a measurable according to Kanamori (or Magidor’s example))

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